Hanrahan

You know one of the funniest things I've ever seen is John Cleese doing those surviving committees videos. Truth is they are worsely run than they ever were! I reckon many of the problems governments have is because they believe too much in "community consultation" . There's something missing i reckon Its important to talk but not weigh up everything with numbers . the "maths model" of democracy is missing something essential . Everyone gets their say and noone gets their way because its too precise and patheticly politically correct . What you need is real leadership ,otherwise its another round of fad driven funny money and yet another kick in the guts when it fails . "We didn't mean to hurt you they will say" after it happens again and they want to fund some new idea someone down there is the big smoke has dreamed up!

Terrible terrible . The Otways are being ruined . Come and see for yourself what logging has done, the history, the impacts , the precious and unique. Hear what those who have managed it say on site before they are forced out forever. November 29/30 . Details on http://ourland3.tripod.com/otwaysoptions

We'll all be ruined "Its unbelievably wet ... " The cows are getting bogged and we are up to our armpits in it . You should have been at the Colac show . the place was a mud bath -people walking around in gumboots and it wasn't just a tribute to Cliffy . While we know you blokes up near Donald wanted more, we've had enough . Don't forget the meeting at Simpson on Friday night . where you might ask in Simpson - well Simpson is one little country town with 1 everything that matters.! Make it a big one cause eventually the Feds will realise the chanting of competition policy is only popular with those who like things very simple.

As geoff from geelong said today scabby mouth is no reason to panic . panic prize goes to the bob brown for cynically employing widespread ignorance to promote their less acaeptable agendas ( the closure of industries)