Hanrahan

Realistic views of the future? One thing I can't fathom is this talk that Bob Brown knows where he is going. He's a realist? By watching TV many of my city cousins think they know whats good for the country . And more than us. we country folks area supposed to be too close to the issues or just " doing the wrong thing by being here", or somethin "We can get all our sugar and milk cheaper from brazil", and the market knows better than any mind !" I think we might have left our minds behind here , maybe ? What now boys? I guess that means that we should all move to the city, eat possums and live in bark huts. sorry but can't use bark apparently bark is a timber product. thats not allowed !

M1 Did you hear that Bob katter hasn't even got a passport? According to city folks that means we are dumb we don't know what we are talking about on economic matters! M2 Rather my money with you mate than with them !

"You poor bastard" They may not say it, but too many think it . This is a call to our fellow Austrailans to stop patronising us , and start supporting systems of sustainable land management - those who look after their country and their food supplies. From our point of view , poverty is one thing, but predjudice is worse!. It' s very tough when our passions are treated with patronising predjudice. The lack of respect for rural custodians seems to be growing, perhaps even with the best of intentions. Successful city folks have always pondered the pennypinching aspects of paradigms of those involved in ecosyetem management. This is not new - and neither is the FACT that the blinkered view of complex ecomanagmenet is wrong to impose the monocultural madness of quick fix on us--- it doesn't workout here - big dollars are wasted when they could do some good if our system of economy was respected . Low return to capital is not only right -its best prac...

"They are very good people, they've worked very hard and they don't deserve what's happened to them," the PM said as he addressed sugar farmers in the marginal seats up north last week . Don't you hate it when Canberra thicktanks knows something they clearly don't .- and they treat you like ignoramusus's as they pat you on the back and say " your'e a good bloke - but work harder and if your smart " get out" Be all right if they could manage money like we can eh !

You know one of the funniest things I've ever seen is John Cleese doing those surviving committees videos. Truth is they are worsely run than they ever were! I reckon many of the problems governments have is because they believe too much in "community consultation" . There's something missing i reckon Its important to talk but not weigh up everything with numbers . the "maths model" of democracy is missing something essential . Everyone gets their say and noone gets their way because its too precise and patheticly politically correct . What you need is real leadership ,otherwise its another round of fad driven funny money and yet another kick in the guts when it fails . "We didn't mean to hurt you they will say" after it happens again and they want to fund some new idea someone down there is the big smoke has dreamed up!

Terrible terrible . The Otways are being ruined . Come and see for yourself what logging has done, the history, the impacts , the precious and unique. Hear what those who have managed it say on site before they are forced out forever. November 29/30 . Details on http://ourland3.tripod.com/otwaysoptions

We'll all be ruined "Its unbelievably wet ... " The cows are getting bogged and we are up to our armpits in it . You should have been at the Colac show . the place was a mud bath -people walking around in gumboots and it wasn't just a tribute to Cliffy . While we know you blokes up near Donald wanted more, we've had enough . Don't forget the meeting at Simpson on Friday night . where you might ask in Simpson - well Simpson is one little country town with 1 everything that matters.! Make it a big one cause eventually the Feds will realise the chanting of competition policy is only popular with those who like things very simple.

As geoff from geelong said today scabby mouth is no reason to panic . panic prize goes to the bob brown for cynically employing widespread ignorance to promote their less acaeptable agendas ( the closure of industries)